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Odd Representation and Whitewashing on The Fandomentalist

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Gretchen, Julia, and Kylie can’t contain their enthusiasm about representation they didn’t know they needed.

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  • 0:00 – Fandom News
  • 20:15 – Random but important representation
  • 44:45 – Adaptational maxim #5 No Whitewashing Allowed

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Kylie is a Managing Editor at The Fandomentals on a mission to slay all the tropes. She has a penchant for complex familial dynamics and is easily pleased when authors include in-depth business details.

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So for me, the odd rep I want more of is Genderfluid rep. Specifically man to woman Genderfluid, don’t get me wrong I love it when there’s any rep period (such as Naoto from Persona 4 [Genderfluid born woman]). But it’s so very rare to see a man in media put on women’s clothes and have it not be a joke. It’s upsetting to me that I have to headcanon my own rep out of characters I see. Like I headcanon J’onn J’onnz (Supergirl TV) as being Genderfluid (“The skirt was surprisingly comfortable”), and that’s a tricky thing because the… Read more »

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The BBC is looking for a new Doctor Who according to the Mirror who is ‘a dashing man in his 30’s’. If this is true it is literally everything I don’t want.

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Great podcat. I really like the topic: So I want to see more of these things: Aromantic characters: I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a well done represantation of an aromantic person in a TV show, movie or book. If there are representations of people who don’t experience romatic attractions it’s portrayed as a form of mental illness or as something wrong. The character might be shown as not being interested in any form of relationships like friendship or family relatonship. Which is wrong. Aromantics can have very meaningful friendships and love their family members, we are just not… Read more »

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Apologies in advance for gushing again about this movie, but the discussion on adapting Fanny Price from Mansfield Park was just too good an opportunity. Aside from being one of my favourite adaptations of Austen, Metropolitan also has, for my money, the best version of Fanny Price.

Needless to say, I’d like to see more representation of bourgeois literature nerds.

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I really enjoyed this podcast! It was quite relevant to things I’ve been thinking about lately. One form of representation I wish I had seen as a kid, specifically, is literary characters who do not like to read/are not good at reading. I think this is important for kids, especially for kids who were like me. I’m dyslexic and while I loved stories and books, I felt intimidated by them. I understand why authors are more likely to write about Hermiones than Rons. They relate more to writers and many readers do too. Last year, I tutored a 5th grade… Read more »

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[…] example where a character has a Jewish mom and gentile father aside from Rugrats. To that, while I’ve sung the praises of Didi’s parents, Boris and Minka with their heavy Yiddish accents and glue-like borscht, Didi […]

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I’m catching up on a backlog of podcasts this week so this comment is late but two other positive representations of polyamory I’ve found are the movie Savages and the first few episodes of House of Cards. It sucks that the only decent examples of the kind of relationship in which I function best that aren’t in Black Sails are in a mediocre action movie and a show with writing so bad I had to quit after maybe four episodes, but seeing how recent these examples are makes me optimistic for more and better representation in the future. Another rare… Read more »

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[…] Empath in my mind, or at least the first one I’d mentally put that label on. Kylie, Julia, and I would joke about such and such a character being “a Sato”, by which we meant Asami. Then I started seeing […]

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JuliaGretchen, and Kylie discuss some of their favorite pieces of ironic enjoyment, as well as a trope generally deemed ‘bad’.

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  • 34:40 – The damsel in distress trope
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